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I don't get it...here is a guy who took an image that was ALREADY FAMOUS...cut and paste that same STOLEN image onto other STOLEN but FAMOUS images and he's considered a genius???<br>
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I'm not even gonna get into his FALSE STATUS as a graffiti artist...but everything about this guy is borrowed, bitten and blown out of porportion.<br>
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I don't know about you...but this guy is robbing everyone's pockets with UNORIGINALITY...He's like the SEAN PUFFY COMBS of the vinyl art world. They both use the same equation...take something that's already a hit....add your name to it...and VOULAH....$$$$$<br>
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Hey wait a sec...i just came to a realization...not only is he a fraud...BUT...he's a GENIUS...and everyone else are just fools!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Hows about sharing some of your original non stolen, Non Bitten, Non blown out of proportion work? <br>
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pretty easy to just hang out and Diss people but what original concept have you had latley?<br>
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Nice to have such a open minded view from your cubicle.....<br>
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Soo you do not get it Move on.... <p></p><i></i>

Hey Termi,<br>
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i'll be the first to admit that i'm not an artist, i'm a collector....BUT...what does that have to do with the price of apples...i still have eyes and know a bite when i see one....can you honestly say the KAWS isn't a fraud??? do you really think he's original??? i don't think so man.<br>
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i understand that all you toy designers are going to stick up for one another...PUFFY has his comfy circle of yessmen...why wouldn't the other BITE KING have his?? BUT I RESPECT THAT.<br>
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the only problem I had with your reply is that you tried to attack me with the cublicle comment...why? because I speak the truth...admit it TERMI, non-conformists derserve a moment at he mic just as much as the blind followers.<br>
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I listed the subject as a question, which left the topic open for discussion...I see you avoided the main question at hand...c'mon TERMI...take off that yes mask and speak from the heart...is KAWS a fraud or not?? if you say no...PLEASE EXPLAIN.<br>
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name me something that is an original idea that has not been recycled...I think the wheel was the last one. True originality is in the trans-mortification...the changing into something new. You have a right to your opinion but don't call people posers because you cant see it. True genius is making thing that are old, new...just like Kaws did, or Andy Warhol, or me (had to do that for my own egos' sake). Love it or leave it to those that derive enjoyment out of it! And second...what he hell is genius anyway? Seems like another label for those who don't to describe those that do...if anyone is a genius than we all are...get it yet?<br>
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Are there ever any "new" ideas? I mean come on, reinterpretation, adaptation, and integration have been the lifeblood of the arts since the onset. We know only what we have seen, and we can see only what already exists.<br>
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Too philosophic for your tastes?<br>
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Let's try an example: Shakespeare - highly renowned playwright. Style? Creative. Delivery? Excellent. Completely new? Absolutely not. The basic plot lines he incorporated into his plays were from already well-known, popular stories of the time. It was merely his reinterpretation of them that garnered the respect and prominence he commands today. Would you also consider him a "biter?" <p></p><i></i>

Bingo Bix. <p></p><i></i>

everyone is influenced by somebody......creativity breads creativity. either it is modified or changed, but there will always be a hint of somebody's influence in their design......just some are more creative than others......everyone has their own opinion and people like what they want to like....and people like kaws....... <p></p><i></i>

don't feed the trolls!<br>
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this is the kind of guy who would have spraypainted 'Andy Warhol sucks a big one" on the hood of your car in 1965.<br>
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This is probably the same person that was trolling for a flame war a few weeks ago...what was the name? Kickszone, I think. The one that led to the "Kickzone Clause" in the rules on the Ningyoushi message boards. Look at the facts: a new member, and the very first thing they post is obviously meant to tick people off? It sure seems like the same tactic as last time.<br>
Sad, that some people get their jollies like that.<br>
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I understand what you're all saying...people have been recycling ideas since the beginning of time...yadda yadda yadds...but don't buy a cat cut its hair and call it a dog.<br>
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YO CITRUS...I'm not questioning KAWS' delivery...i called him a genius didn't I????...BUT creatively...he's LACKING BIGTIME...Shakespeare must be rolling in his grave...that was a lame comparison...If good ol' Willy would've switched around a few of the acts/scenes and used the same words as his predecessors, then you would have had yourself a FAIR COMPARISON...take an old theme run with it and call it art...sure i'll agree...BUT only if it's done tastefully and creatively...JHOO...I could swallow someones art if it bears a HINT of someone else's work in it...but KAWS does the complete opposite and FORGETS to include a HINT OF HIS OWN. <br>
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This FRAUD took mainstream images that we were all familiar with (remember, consumers love familiarity) added the SKULL AND CROSS BONES (wait a sec...now that's an original idea) and pasted it onto the MICHELIN MAN and MICKEY MOUSE.....where my friend is that considered creative???<br>
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basically what you're all saying is that NO ONE has any new ideas today...and plagarism is ok.<br>
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well than good golly gee...i'm gonna try my hand in this game...i'm on my way to china with these drawings in hand....check out the changeable face....I call it "THE MONSTERS IN MY MIND" by ANDY RING...how's that for TROLL?...oh yeah and how do you feel about your art being robbed??? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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cab you do a few of mine.. theeese are great!<br>
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try here.. ww.drastic.com <p></p><i></i>

I like it! But it's too late, i beat you to it last week. <br>
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Oh... and there's a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>slight</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> difference between Groob and famous models or the company icons of multinational corporations. <br>
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Is it safe to assume that you think Andy Warhol a talentless hack? How is the work of KAWS or any artists who do work based largely on the appropriation of popular or corporate imagery any different? It's not. <br>
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This debate was covered throughout the 60's and 70's, there's no reason to bring it up again. You think one way about an artist, many people disagree. Nothing wrong with it, but that's all there is to it and I really see no need to continue arguing one side or the other. <br>
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Thank you Andrew! <p></p><i></i>

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Uh oh, Cifan that was post 666... <p></p><i></i>

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OOOOHHHHHHH that explains it...now i know why you were so hard to defend him...looks like you felt a tinge of guilt because you lie on the same bed of nails as the man of the hour.<br>
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people will do anything just to make a buck....even selling their soul to the art devil...andrew tell me...do you really think that's a nice piece???? in your heart you know the answer. you're just too scared to admit it.<br>
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i actually like your stuff..its a damn shame you sold out...BEWARE...as you laugh all the way to the bank with your boy KAWS...just remember one thing...HES A SNEAK...so watch out!!!!!!!!<br>
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Hope you like my new creations....those tiny hands in china are working away...don't worry i'll send ya one in the mail...<br>
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I'm Dan Rather!!! <p></p><i></i>

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Hucks mom says he is handsome..... <p></p><i></i>

Ko that was a groob i painted myself for kicks, im not working or affiliated with KAWS except that i enjoy his work and will defend the right of an artist to make a decent living doing what they enjoy.<br>
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...and as far as selling out goes, i sold out waaaaay before i even started! Creatures is funded by BLOOD(of children) MONEY!<br>
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Seriously did KAWS eat your puppy or something? Your gripe seems way more personal than a difference of opinion on the nature of art.<br>
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i almost forgot....comparing this guy to andy warhol is ridiculous....the only thing they have in common is their love of little boys in go go shorts. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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andy invented the BIG BITE...now that's original and ya gotta respect that...oh yeah, he changed it up too.<br>
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our friend has built an army of faithful slaves...the next thing you know, he'll have all of you drinking purple kool-aide at his next extravaganza. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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check in to see a different item from my new toy line.<br>
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later kiddies <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

whether you agree or not with whats being said here...........gotta tell ya..............its been a really funny read..............!!<br>
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the "boys in go go shorts" line had me fallin outta my chair!<br>
big props on the creative writing.........your slayin' me!<br>
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seriously k-ma, you have kaws envy. everything that i read from you is nothing more than mere stupidity. it's nice to see that an artist whom you infer isn't worth his salt is able to show his work in a real art museum with others from his era that have defined and embodied a complete movement in the art world. i suppose you believe that futura is unoriginal because he 'spatters paint on a canvas that looks like orbits' or creates 'pointman figures' that to you would look like he ripped off aliens. in that same vein you probably believe that jeff koons, whom kaws admires, is unorignal as well because he creates sculptures that you more than likely think he ripped off a balloon clown who works at kids parties making dogs or swords out of balloons. the way i see it, is that you have no true bearing on art or what art actually is - whether it is on a canvas, a figure, a shoe or even a tattoo. i would like to see you go up to mr. cartoon out in los angeles and tell him his work is unoriginal because he inks letters or skulls or anything that has been around before onto people who pay him money - he wouldn't even give you the time of day. and all that to say this - if you had any sense of reason or respect for art, the least you could try and do is find your own meaning to what kaws does. here, i will give you some help... maybe you could view kaws work as a way to take something common and familiar that crosses all cultural and generational gaps, and creates a way for people to more easily deal with a difficult issue such as death. <p></p><i></i>

on a happier note...that's the cutest lil' pup ever...i'd eat him too if he were in front of me...with a little bit of ketchup and onions. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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lets not fall off track and get back to the matter at hand....my gripe with KAWS isn't a personal one...it just kills me to see him get away with what he does...it was cool the first 5 times he ran with it...but geez gimme a break...change it up already. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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it's also political...with the rate of gas being as high as it is right now...its a damn shame he's letting all that octane go to waste by pumping his head full of it...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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tune in everyday...a new character from my toy line will be introduced daily.<br>
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later kiddies<br>
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the truth is...i made a post and a lot of people replied with the same lame defense...if you knew me personally, you'd know that it's become my mission to save the lost souls of the kidrobot discussion board...i couldn't live with myself if you all fell for the purple kool-aide and i didn't do anything about it. <br>
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