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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:52 pm 
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I figure at this point I'll post more evidence and more embarrassing things about Zenga every day until I get my money. My favorite is this:

http://www.pluusje.nl/nl/component/awik ... ason_Zenga

This link is dead, but you get a sense what it's about... It was an archived chat I found in which Zenga endlessly argues with a Wikipedia moderator demanding to know why they keep taking down the Wikipedia page Zenga built for himself describing what a brilliant techno producer he is, and the moderator explaining there's no links in the Wiki post to verify anything Zenga is saying. Hopefully I have the chat saved somewhere. I always hoped one day this would all come to light so I did my homework, I just didn't have it in me a year ago to be the one to do anything about it. Thank God for all you guys coming forward.


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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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AAB ripping people off is in no way funny, but it is funny how they threaten the people they rip off. I too got an email saying they were going to hit me with slander and libel charges if I said anything bad about them. They said they didn't need the bad press. No kidding, if I was stealing left and right I wouldn't want people outing me as a criminal either.


it is not slander if it is a fact. i've already discussed this at great length with my lawyer. feel free to post what happened around the internet.

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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doesnt art asylum own the kozik companion? it really sucks when proper art gets put in the wrong hands

That's the Toy Art Gallery in LA...

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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ah my bad, i just saw somewhere one of those lame "my new aquisition" posts he puts everywhere with a picture of the kozik kaws and figured they still had it

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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Hmmm, well maybe you are right in that case... I just looked at TAG's website and app it says that it was sold...

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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this is just too important to be slipping down in the threads

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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doesnt art asylum own the kozik companion? it really sucks when proper art gets put in the wrong hands

That's the Toy Art Gallery in LA...


art asylum aparently owns it, its left at TAG so people an appreciate the piece accordign to AAB...

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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http://whois.domaintools.com/artasylumboston.com

The site is registered out of Sunnyvale, Ca. and gives an admin phone number for Juliann Cyhan.

we called their service provider(assuming the info was current) to see what we would need to do to get this site shut down as there shop page is still open to anyone who unwittingly stumbles across it. they told us all that would be needed would be a letter of desist from a lawyer or even from us if we know how to properly form the letter. they said we could google dmca for more info and should contact Legal@hostaway.com .

i am posting this hoping it helps any of you taking action against these people. and thank you for helping keep this community safe.

My boyfriend is calling someone else who might also have helpful info in this matter. but i thought i would post what we have found.

-shannon starr

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http://whois.domaintools.com/artasylumboston.com

The site is registered out of Sunnyvale, Ca. and gives an admin phone number for Juliann Cyhan.

we called their service provider(assuming the info was current) to see what we would need to do to get this site shut down as there shop page is still open to anyone who unwittingly stumbles across it. they told us all that would be needed would be a letter of desist from a lawyer or even from us if we know how to properly form the letter. they said we could google dmca for more info and should contact Legal@hostaway.com .

i am posting this hoping it helps any of you taking action against these people. and thank you for helping keep this community safe.

My boyfriend is calling someone else who might also have helpful info in this matter. but i thought i would post what we have found.

-shannon starr


Good stuff Shannon, I hope someone with some decent legal know how is down to make this happen. The only thing we can do at this moment is help prevent others from getting scammed by these doosh bags, so please step up if you can. :goodman:

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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lilredbeaver wrote:
http://whois.domaintools.com/artasylumboston.com

The site is registered out of Sunnyvale, Ca. and gives an admin phone number for Juliann Cyhan.

we called their service provider(assuming the info was current) to see what we would need to do to get this site shut down as there shop page is still open to anyone who unwittingly stumbles across it. they told us all that would be needed would be a letter of desist from a lawyer or even from us if we know how to properly form the letter. they said we could google dmca for more info and should contact Legal@hostaway.com .

i am posting this hoping it helps any of you taking action against these people. and thank you for helping keep this community safe.

My boyfriend is calling someone else who might also have helpful info in this matter. but i thought i would post what we have found.

-shannon starr


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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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If anyone who is spearheading a desist letter needs any legal help - PM me I might be able to help out.

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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Upso, did you successfully file mail fraud charges?

I believe more than one of you might be able to file mail fraud charges to get the ball rolling. That way a felony case is in the process, and you can go after him at the same time with civil suits. I don't know if maybe one lawyer could handle it for everyone, but the combined documentation of everyone would serve to show what a piece of trash this guy is. Tag plenty of extra cash to the civil suits if possible.

Getting the cops to go after him for anything other than the mail fraud is going to be difficult in my experience so I would hit him in his checkbook.

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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if anyone wants to get involved in doing a class action let me know
i'm about to post on my magazine's blog about the story. It has thousands of followers. anything i can do to help the group effort, i'm happy to do

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if anyone wants to get involved in doing a class action let me know
i'm about to post on my magazine's blog about the story. It has thousands of followers. anything i can do to help the group effort, i'm happy to do


Anything to bring AAB to justice! Just let me know how I can get involved in a class action.

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 Post subject: Re: SCAMMER ALERT: ART ASYLUM BOSTON!
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Bump it to top for awareness.

Any update on this.

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More artists speak out against AAB, keep these scammers up top.


http://www.thelifevicarious.com/the_lif ... -down.html

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Please once , just once.... Can the people who were scammed by AAB circle them and throw rotten food in thier faces. Would be quit epic!

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even better, though it would be rather expensive, get kaws keychains and throw THEM at them, much more painful and ironic ;)

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:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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and up again!!

Any news on this?

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Art Asylum Boston in NO way connected to Imagination Asylum
People like this cheese me off, plus I thought they were somehow connected to Digger Mesch's Art Asylum. I'm glad to know they aren't.

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and up again!!

Any news on this?


I think Arkiv is working to make some new prints for all the people who got scammed in the AAB deal. Then the legal mess is going to take a very long time, which he wont be able to really give out any details over that. Im sure hes working on it though, hes pretty busy right now with his art shows, not that he doesnt care about the others or anything. Just allot on his plate at the moment.

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wjlaak01 wrote:
and up again!!

Any news on this?


I think Arkiv is working to make some new prints for all the people who got scammed in the AAB deal.


Have a look of the print that was made for AAB
http://somethingill.com/arkiv-print

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