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So, I have a slight problem with a trade here on the boards.

The trade is with a relatively reputable trader.

He had a Mr. Bunny for sale for $35 on the boards. I offered him $31 and he accepted. Then, I got it yesterday and noticed right away that it had two left arms. I sent him a message yesterday afternoon about it and he read the message but didn't reply. Then, I sent him another message today (asking for a refund and I'd send it back) which he's also read and hasn't replied.

I'm wondering what I should do. I know I should give him at least another 24 hours or so, but the fact that he hasn't even given me an explanation leads me to believe he knew darn well about it's arms.

Anyways, input appreciated!

Personally, I feel he owes either a partial refund or the exchange voided and reversed.


It is possible that this person did not notice that the dunny had 2 left arms, especially if they just opened the box to see what dunny it is.
I had a Queen Andrea displayed for almost 2 years before I noticed that it had two right arms.

Having said that, unless they told you it had to left arms (this is how I sold the QA eventually for cheap) they should offer to take it back in my opinion
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At least, reading messages and not even replying is very poor form. If nothing else they owe you a reply and explanation.

So if they keep reading messages and not replying, you should complain some more here and list details. How long you wait is up to you I guess.

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Ok well I payed mANNEe for an 8" flying fortress. Haven't received it or heard from him. He has not responded to any of my messages for over a week, and still logs on everyday and continues to sell things. I am not the only person with this problem with mANNEe. core4pro also is having the same problem. What's the deal?



agreeing with LLslickD...right now we're just getting excuses from maNNe and no items..and it doesn't help that he never answers our messages..paypal claims have been filed


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I have traded and sold on other boards before and have never had a problem up until now. There is a user who shall remain nameless for the time being who I purchased a dunny from and 2 weeks has passed and I have no dunny I have since PMed him twice and he responded to the first one and claimed to have forgot and will ship it out tomorrow and is now ignoring my messages when simply asked if he had sent it out so I could keep an eye out for it. How long should I give him before I report him to paypal? and give negative feedback? btw a whole week has gone by since he said he was going to send it the 2nd time.


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I have traded and sold on other boards before and have never had a problem up until now. There is a user who shall remain nameless for the time being who I purchased a dunny from and 2 weeks has passed and I have no dunny I have since PMed him twice and he responded to the first one and claimed to have forgot and will ship it out tomorrow and is now ignoring my messages when simply asked if he had sent it out so I could keep an eye out for it. How long should I give him before I report him to paypal? and give negative feedback? btw a whole week has gone by since he said he was going to send it the 2nd time.


I'll come out and say this seller is me being I have nothing to hide. I haven't been here for a few days and missed this kids pms. The first week when we had the deal set I didnt know he had sent payment due to he was having his account verified and did not know. I seen that he did and contacted him that it would be shipped out the next day and it was but it was shipped by my girlfriend because I was called early to work. Problem is she didn't get me a tracking number when I specifically asked for one. I don't know why he has not recieved it yet being he lives in the same state. I contacted him when I seen his messages and he has not replied to me today about saying at least an ok thanks for letting me know. I haven't dealt that much on here lately but most of you know me. I'm not here to rip anyone off or steal from someone. Just thought I'd come out and say crackattack your package is out. If anything I'll go to the post office tomorrow and see if they can track it for me.

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Paid for a miami and red huck back in March. Still haven't received it. Everyone says hes a good guy but he still hasn't responded to me.

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my first trading experience was ruined by elf2elf, still hasnt upheld his part of the trade? Send me my stuff


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Paid for item on 4/09/2008. pending refund via paypal (escalated claim) from seller ballaholyk84. Have not receive it yet.

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my first trading experience was ruined by elf2elf, still hasnt upheld his part of the trade? Send me my stuff


Please post the details here.


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hi mod....

please monitor the activities or complaints posted about the sellers or traders who did not upheld their trades or products. I don't want another buyer to have the same problem.

"ballaholyk84" never delivered my item...

[ Added: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:08 am ]
I have received my item today, but it took almost 3 1/2 weeks to get my item....... ridiculos!!!

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... DIDNT WANT TO BUT HERE IT GOES

About 5 -6 Weeks ago I offered DJ quinico a Bomb Jr. the tower records edition Worth about (35-40$). I Really didn't like or want it so I was just trying to get it off my hands didn't want much. Well He said he'd take it, having nothing i wanted i asked if he could just buy me 2 or 3 blind french THATS IT! He said sure! he also said if i wanted a gingerbreadman dunny hed get me a blind of that so i agreed to 2 french and 1 gingerbread, thats it. after about a week I MSG him to see what was up, i was rdy to ship out, he said he had to wait till april 2nd I believe for his pay check, I wasn't that mad, but still a bit peeved... but i understand that kind of thing. so i said NP arpil 2nd went by and about 2 weeks ago i asked him what was up?! he said he would get them out ASAP so i sent out the bomb (mistake), on saturday or sunday of last week i asked him again, he had just shipped out on saturday, (according to him his UPS store was closed for remodeling) and it should be there within the week, by this time i just wanted to get it over with not caring about the dunnys... its been 5 days, for 3 blinds. Im no mailing expert but he isnt INCREDIBLY far from VA and unless he put those 3 blinds in a HUGE box there is no reason it should not be here yet, I really didn't want to do this. But that was a pretty DAM good deal if I do say so myself, I first only asked for a few blinds, I 2nd waited for him to get paid, THEN waited for him to ship! I'm sorry but this is really making me mad i leave tomoro for IN for the weekend and wont be back till monday. So that makes me even madder, so much for trying to be a nice guy

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Still no item from mANNEe. He gave paypal a bogus tracking number a week ago, and the package has not moved, and I havent received anything. I asked fro refund and have not received it. The dispute is still pending in paypal. whats the deal? DO NOT BUY FROM THIS SELLER!.

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well about a month ago me, and elf2elf, agreed to a trade, i would mail him 3 french dunnys( ajee, supakitch,and koa, plus 15 cash. in return i would receive 1 tagteam dunny black. now i told him when we were making the trade, that i needed the dunny by a certain time, cause it was a gift for friend. i mailed my items immediately even throwing in an extra 5 bucks to help with his part of the shipping. he gets my items and emails me that he is going to ship my stuff, so like two days go by, i pm him cause he was supposed to get me a tracking number, he gets back to me and tells me thats he lost or accidently, lost my pm with my info. he ships the package in a timely manner, even though it was not on time to the party. i get the package, i hand it to my friend who just happened to be there when i got the package, she opens it up, its not the right item, instead of my tagteam, i get a kid ninja #14, at this point im a little upset but whatever it was probaly a mistake, i pm him and tell him what happened, he apologizes and tells me he messed up on the labels, and that he would have the person who got my dunny ship it to me, i ask him what to do about the ninja, he tells me to tape it back up, and write refuse on the package. so like a week and a half later, no package no messages to me, no updates he didnt respond to a couple of my pms. during this time i find someone selling a black tag team for a good price, and i buy it. i tell elf this and finally he gets back to me and says well i have a pink one, so just to close the deal i said fine i really just wanted my stuff back, but he didnt want to do that, i dont even like the pink tag team but whatever. he says ok i will ship it to you, so like 1 more week goes by, i send him a pm, whats up with the dunny, he tells me he will not ship the dunny till he gets his ninja back, i told him that i wanted to hold on to it till i got my items in the mail, then i would refuse, the ninja. basically the ninja is my hostage to ensure i get something in the mail, im not here to beat anybody for there stuff, i allready own both ninja colorways plus an artist proof. i up held my part of the bargain he got his stuff, now i want mine. but he absolutely refuses to ship my stuff.


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well about a month ago me, and elf2elf, agreed to a trade, i would mail him 3 french dunnys( ajee, supakitch,and koa, plus 15 cash. in return i would receive 1 tagteam dunny black. now i told him when we were making the trade, that i needed the dunny by a certain time, cause it was a gift for friend. i mailed my items immediately even throwing in an extra 5 bucks to help with his part of the shipping. he gets my items and emails me that he is going to ship my stuff, so like two days go by, i pm him cause he was supposed to get me a tracking number, he gets back to me and tells me thats he lost or accidently, lost my pm with my info. he ships the package in a timely manner, even though it was not on time to the party. i get the package, i hand it to my friend who just happened to be there when i got the package, she opens it up, its not the right item, instead of my tagteam, i get a kid ninja #14, at this point im a little upset but whatever it was probaly a mistake, i pm him and tell him what happened, he apologizes and tells me he messed up on the labels, and that he would have the person who got my dunny ship it to me, i ask him what to do about the ninja, he tells me to tape it back up, and write refuse on the package. so like a week and a half later, no package no messages to me, no updates he didnt respond to a couple of my pms. during this time i find someone selling a black tag team for a good price, and i buy it. i tell elf this and finally he gets back to me and says well i have a pink one, so just to close the deal i said fine i really just wanted my stuff back, but he didnt want to do that, i dont even like the pink tag team but whatever. he says ok i will ship it to you, so like 1 more week goes by, i send him a pm, whats up with the dunny, he tells me he will not ship the dunny till he gets his ninja back, i told him that i wanted to hold on to it till i got my items in the mail, then i would refuse, the ninja. basically the ninja is my hostage to ensure i get something in the mail, im not here to beat anybody for there stuff, i allready own both ninja colorways plus an artist proof. i up held my part of the bargain he got his stuff, now i want mine. but he absolutely refuses to ship my stuff.



ive heard several complaints about this guy, deffinately never dealing with him, lord knows he doesnt have one of the ones u gave him originally. I also wonder what happened with the person who got the tag team color me happy one?

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... DIDNT WANT TO BUT HERE IT GOES

About 5 -6 Weeks ago I offered DJ quinico a Bomb Jr. the tower records edition Worth about (35-40$). I Really didn't like or want it so I was just trying to get it off my hands didn't want much. Well He said he'd take it, having nothing i wanted i asked if he could just buy me 2 or 3 blind french THATS IT! He said sure! he also said if i wanted a gingerbreadman dunny hed get me a blind of that so i agreed to 2 french and 1 gingerbread, thats it. after about a week I MSG him to see what was up, i was rdy to ship out, he said he had to wait till april 2nd I believe for his pay check, I wasn't that mad, but still a bit peeved... but i understand that kind of thing. so i said NP arpil 2nd went by and about 2 weeks ago i asked him what was up?! he said he would get them out ASAP so i sent out the bomb (mistake), on saturday or sunday of last week i asked him again, he had just shipped out on saturday, (according to him his UPS store was closed for remodeling) and it should be there within the week, by this time i just wanted to get it over with not caring about the dunnys... its been 5 days, for 3 blinds. Im no mailing expert but he isnt INCREDIBLY far from VA and unless he put those 3 blinds in a HUGE box there is no reason it should not be here yet, I really didn't want to do this. But that was a pretty DAM good deal if I do say so myself, I first only asked for a few blinds, I 2nd waited for him to get paid, THEN waited for him to ship! I'm sorry but this is really making me mad i leave tomoro for IN for the weekend and wont be back till monday. So that makes me even madder, so much for trying to be a nice guy


dude i told you, unless you sent me the wrong address, then they should be there. If they got lost it is not my fault. Either way i will do something to make uo for it! it was not my fault and i am sorry! if you talk to ppl on my good deals list they will all say that they had no trouble

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... DIDNT WANT TO BUT HERE IT GOES

About 5 -6 Weeks ago I offered DJ quinico a Bomb Jr. the tower records edition Worth about (35-40$). I Really didn't like or want it so I was just trying to get it off my hands didn't want much. Well He said he'd take it, having nothing i wanted i asked if he could just buy me 2 or 3 blind french THATS IT! He said sure! he also said if i wanted a gingerbreadman dunny hed get me a blind of that so i agreed to 2 french and 1 gingerbread, thats it. after about a week I MSG him to see what was up, i was rdy to ship out, he said he had to wait till april 2nd I believe for his pay check, I wasn't that mad, but still a bit peeved... but i understand that kind of thing. so i said NP arpil 2nd went by and about 2 weeks ago i asked him what was up?! he said he would get them out ASAP so i sent out the bomb (mistake), on saturday or sunday of last week i asked him again, he had just shipped out on saturday, (according to him his UPS store was closed for remodeling) and it should be there within the week, by this time i just wanted to get it over with not caring about the dunnys... its been 5 days, for 3 blinds. Im no mailing expert but he isnt INCREDIBLY far from VA and unless he put those 3 blinds in a HUGE box there is no reason it should not be here yet, I really didn't want to do this. But that was a pretty DAM good deal if I do say so myself, I first only asked for a few blinds, I 2nd waited for him to get paid, THEN waited for him to ship! I'm sorry but this is really making me mad i leave tomoro for IN for the weekend and wont be back till monday. So that makes me even madder, so much for trying to be a nice guy


dude i told you, unless you sent me the wrong address, then they should be there. If they got lost it is not my fault. Either way i will do something to make uo for it! it was not my fault and i am sorry! if you talk to ppl on my good deals list they will all say that they had no trouble


i feel the need to chime in...
if shauni has proof that the package was sent then you need to keep up with your part of the trade.

this is how we've solved other problems with trades.

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DJ Quinico wrote:
Shauni55 wrote:
... DIDNT WANT TO BUT HERE IT GOES

About 5 -6 Weeks ago I offered DJ quinico a Bomb Jr. the tower records edition Worth about (35-40$). I Really didn't like or want it so I was just trying to get it off my hands didn't want much. Well He said he'd take it, having nothing i wanted i asked if he could just buy me 2 or 3 blind french THATS IT! He said sure! he also said if i wanted a gingerbreadman dunny hed get me a blind of that so i agreed to 2 french and 1 gingerbread, thats it. after about a week I MSG him to see what was up, i was rdy to ship out, he said he had to wait till april 2nd I believe for his pay check, I wasn't that mad, but still a bit peeved... but i understand that kind of thing. so i said NP arpil 2nd went by and about 2 weeks ago i asked him what was up?! he said he would get them out ASAP so i sent out the bomb (mistake), on saturday or sunday of last week i asked him again, he had just shipped out on saturday, (according to him his UPS store was closed for remodeling) and it should be there within the week, by this time i just wanted to get it over with not caring about the dunnys... its been 5 days, for 3 blinds. Im no mailing expert but he isnt INCREDIBLY far from VA and unless he put those 3 blinds in a HUGE box there is no reason it should not be here yet, I really didn't want to do this. But that was a pretty DAM good deal if I do say so myself, I first only asked for a few blinds, I 2nd waited for him to get paid, THEN waited for him to ship! I'm sorry but this is really making me mad i leave tomoro for IN for the weekend and wont be back till monday. So that makes me even madder, so much for trying to be a nice guy


dude i told you, unless you sent me the wrong address, then they should be there. If they got lost it is not my fault. Either way i will do something to make uo for it! it was not my fault and i am sorry! if you talk to ppl on my good deals list they will all say that they had no trouble


i feel the need to chime in...
if shauni has proof that the package was sent then you need to keep up with your part of the trade.

this is how we've solved other problems with trades.



He never got a confirmation #, which also made m kind of mad if im giving him a good deal i would think that id atleast get a # or sent a little faster, especially after waiting so long. But i gave him my addy about 4-5 times each time he said he was sending it out

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Always always ALWAYS do delivery confirmation to avoid situations like this, it's only like an extra 65 cents or something, really not a big deal! It holds up your end of the deal, if you don't do delivery confirmation then you're held liable if a package does not make it to the destination.

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still nothing from elf2elf, and he's been logging on daily,


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I have updated the summary post at the beginning of this thread. If you've had a problem, lease check the post and let me know if you think something is missing, or if what is there is not correct.


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poppidunny wrote:
well about a month ago me, and elf2elf, agreed to a trade, i would mail him 3 french dunnys( ajee, supakitch,and koa, plus 15 cash. in return i would receive 1 tagteam dunny black. [/qoute]

true

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now i told him when we were making the trade, that i needed the dunny by a certain time, cause it was a gift for friend. i mailed my items immediately even throwing in an extra 5 bucks to help with his part of the shipping.

don't remember this part b4 the trade, but you did mention it AFTER you recieved the ninja that you needed the black tag for a gift for a party.


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he gets my items and emails me that he is going to ship my stuff, so like two days go by, i pm him cause he was supposed to get me a tracking number, he gets back to me and tells me thats he lost or accidently, lost my pm with my info. he ships the package in a timely manner, even though it was not on time to the party. i get the package, i hand it to my friend who just happened to be there when i got the package, she opens it up, its not the right item, instead of my tagteam, i get a kid ninja #14


this isn't true, cause you pm'd me saying that you got the ninja, and you needed the tag team as a gift, and you needed it asap.


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at this point im a little upset but whatever it was probaly a mistake, i pm him and tell him what happened, he apologizes and tells me he messed up on the labels, and that he would have the person who got my dunny ship it to me, i ask him what to do about the ninja, he tells me to tape it back up, and write refuse on the package. so like a week and a half later, no package no messages to me, no updates he didnt respond to a couple of my pms.


yep, i screwed up the labels. i told him to mark the box refused and send it back to me, at that point i would either ship him the black tag team OR have the black tag team shipped from the person that was supposed to get the ninja. i never wrote to you for a week or so because i was waiting for the ninja. when you pm'ed about not getting the tag team yet, i said i was waiting for the ninja first.



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during this time i find someone selling a black tag team for a good price, and i buy it. i tell elf this and finally he gets back to me and says well i have a pink one, so just to close the deal i said fine i really just wanted my stuff back, but he didnt want to do that, i dont even like the pink tag team but whatever. he says ok i will ship it to you, so like 1 more week goes by, i send him a pm, whats up with the dunny, he tells me he will not ship the dunny till he gets his ninja back, i told him that i wanted to hold on to it till i got my items in the mail, then i would refuse, the ninja.


its not that i didn't want to give up the stuff you sent, it was that i would rather have traded the stuff i didn't want. you seemed interested in trading for other things. if you would have said, I only want my stuff back and nothing else will make me happy, then i would have obliged. again, i never said i would ship the pink tag, i definitely said that i needed to have the ninja back b4 i shipped anything.
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basically the ninja is my hostage to ensure i get something in the mail, im not here to beat anybody for there stuff, i allready own both ninja colorways plus an artist proof. i up held my part of the bargain he got his stuff, now i want mine. but he absolutely refuses to ship my stuff.


uhm, your last pm that you sent to me was that you hated me and to thank me for the this horrible experience. you alse said that to not bother with sending the pink tag cause you already traded the ninja to someone else for a pink tag. that sounds like closure to me, so don't don't make it seem like i'm trying to duck you.

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Ok poppidunny and elf2elf, this is confusing, but it sounds to me like each of you have an item to send to the other person, but neither is willing to send first because of distrust. Is this correct?

How about if you both send them to me, and when I get them both, I'll send them to the other person? If I don't receive them both in a reasonable time, I'll return the one I got to the original person.


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coasterbear wrote:
Ok poppidunny and elf2elf, this is confusing, but it sounds to me like each of you have an item to send to the other person, but neither is willing to send first because of distrust. Is this correct?

How about if you both send them to me, and when I get them both, I'll send them to the other person? If I don't receive them both in a reasonable time, I'll return the one I got to the original person.



I think were getting alot of mixed signals here from the two of them

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